Monday, October 27, 2008

Riffing on Commitment

This morning I visited a message board of some youth worker friends and saw a conversation about commitment. I thought I'd riff on it for a bit on the message board, then I wondered what the readers of my blog might think. What do you think?

i think this is often about community as well.
I have a couple theories on this, tell me what you think.
It's something of a chicken or egg thing.

Engagement and responsibility it at the core of commitment. People who aren't engaged by feeling a sense of belonging and responsibility for what happens at youth, or the church but do feel that way in other areas of their lives will be more engaged in those other activities. If I'm missing from my basketball team, or cheerleading squad then the team simply can't function as well with out me. I serve an essential function on that team, a unique role and when I'm not there, the team struggles. Whether be a point guard or the person a the base of the pyramid, i feel a sense of responsabilty to be there. In churches were leadership is taken care of, and people give up their responsibility to others, then it gives them space to no longer be engaged.
Youth, families and individuals within our church who aren't engaged in community or see themselves as responsible for their own spiritual well being and the nurture of others quite simply aren't committed to your church. The question then becomes why?

Scenario 1:
On one hand it's a followership issue. People just won't do what we want them to do, or be engaged to the level we think a healthy individual, family, etc should be engaged. In this scenario the leader talks about people outside the room a lot. The leader's job is to somehow leverage influence or to persuade youth, families, indivuals of the benefits of life in the church, or with God etc. This leader either talks like a vicitim a lot, or like a visionary. The victim wonders why everyone outside them won't align with the way things should be, at least from their perspective. The visionary attempts to conform the world to their (read: God's) vision for the church and the world. It seems that only difference between the the victim and the visionary is the amount of confidence and force. I suppose this really isn't a followership issue, it's more of a leadership isn't it? I suppose people value what we teach them to value and if our leadership style is victim or visionary then people aren't really valued in either. The victim resents the people for not going along with their idea. The visionary sees people as cogs in their plan. "Those people will be in community and love each other if it's the last thing I do! WE will be a beautiful church that loves each other and their neighbors!" What people really value, or are committed to doesn't really matter in this view, with the exception of lip service. The visionary church leader sees people as sheep, dumb and in need of serious direction.

Scenario 2:
On the other hand, it's a followership issue. For real this time. That people actually value things, and some might actually value your youth group, and your church. Just in the way's you've taught them to. People who see themselves as responsible for something have a choice. They will either hold on to that responsibilty or they will pass it off to someone else. To hold on to responsibility is be a disciple, to be human to be how we were created. To give away the power and responsibility to someone else is the act of a consumer. The parent who drops their teenager off at your activities but never talks about God might be an example of this. They have give you the power and responsibility to spiritual form their child. They have become a consumer. But before you go off on a "How consumeristic people are..." rant, it should be noted that it takes two people to make a transaction like this and that the more you talk about it, the more you sound like the victim listed about in scenario 1 above. I guess I'm just saying that you freely encourage their action by your action, and probably by your church's action.

That said. You're probably asking the how question by now right? How do we change this pattern? How do we make parent's more responsible? How do we stop enabling them? How do we make people commit or be more accountable.

Friends, How is the wrong question. At least at this point in the game.

How only leads to more of the same. Why? Read the questions I just listed. They are all victim or visionary oriented. They are about people out there, people who must be manipulated or persuaded to fall in line with what I think. More of the same. If you like where you are now, keep asking how. You will never see change, other than superficially.

It begs the question:
What is the role of leadership in the church?
What does engagement look like in the church?
I need to run, but I'm sure there will be more soon...

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Sunday, October 26, 2008

Stuff I've read recently

Jimmy asks, "If I call Myself a Christian, Does it Associate me with this...?" I was wondering myself, actually. Too bad he missed this little beauty.

Michael Toy wrote a very good poem. I'm not a poem guy, but this spoke to me.

The LA Times says that Robert Schuller ousts his son for the Hour of Power. Evidently they had a lack of shared vision for the future of the ministry. I guess they should have spent some more time together to figure that out before they made the transition. Pretty unbelievable actually. Link

Bob Larson is in the news. He's going to be doing exorcisms the sci fi channel.
Mr. Larson admits it’s an unusual combination of spirituality and entertainment, saying he can envision fans “throwing house parties with pizza and popcorn” while they watch him command demons to depart from tormented souls.

Nice. link

Marko has discovered Taylor Mali. Link I dig this named Reading Allowed

Here's a touch of goodness.

Then there's my buddy Bevan who wants more from the presidential candidates here.

That's enough for now.

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Monday, February 25, 2008

Odd Signage



Not the guy I'd call if I needed Tree work.

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Saturday, February 02, 2008

My Dream Team Conference Line up

Someone recently requested a list from me.
The list of people I'd love to hear at a conference.
Here's my list of my dream conference speakers:

John Stewart
Eugene Peterson
Seth Godin
Chris Argyris
Demond Tutu
Frederick Bueckner
Bono
Guy Kawasaki
Joe Myers
The Coen Brothers
Chuck Palahniuck
Ira Glass
Mike Rowe

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Thursday, January 10, 2008

Random Links

-Brant "Quit Going to Church" a year ago.

-Tony thinks this is how church should start. Evidently I'm out of the loop on such things. This seems to have been passed around a bit. I think this is how you start a show. The lights are pretty, and artistically it's fun and creative. I hope we can find places in our communities for folks like those performing and who design such things. But it's a show. Just watch the crowd, especially the last half of the song. It reminded me of this. and this. No judgment for me. Just not my cup of tea. I really like the creativity. I wonder if there is a better use for it, than a church service. It seems such a waste to me.

Scot has started a series of the Kingdom of God.

Todd is a remarkable thinker. Who is one of those emerging Southern Baptist you keep hearing about.

Moron drives his truck into a house.
(ht dave barry)

A matter of perspective I suppose. Link

Young Life is learning something about leading change. Marko has come good links on this. Read the articles and blog posts. Then tell me we don't live in a chronically anxious culture.

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Sunday, December 02, 2007

Disturbing

It's disturbing to me, that almost 2 years after I posted on seeing Christian Camo, I get 4 hits from Google a week looking for it.

People are actually going to Google and typing "Christian Camo" and four of them come to my site.

I'm wondering if these are people who already know about this product.
or

If there are people who actually need camo and are wondering, "I wonder if there is a christian version of camo I can wear to make me feel good and spread my faith to other hunters, and so that the last thing an animal sees is a dove and a cross mysteriously floating in the brush ahead."

Either way...
If you found this blog because of Christian Camo, please leave a comment and tell me why you are looking for it.

Some time the unknown plays with my mind.

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Monday, August 13, 2007

A Thought

As I read several popular blogs, attend conventions or summits that there is often a similar theme.

If you find just the right technique your church will reach people.

So people blog about technology and say if you use technology just right then you will reach people. Others will say, if you use instruments, if you have great teaching, if you increase your leadership potential, if you do small groups just right... then you will reach people.

Technique.

But I think these folks are wrong.

Technique is only a result of why some churches reach people and other don't.

Some would spiritualize it and say it's only God that reaches people, but frankly that's bogus too. The Holy Spirit may woo people to him, but God uses people reach people. And yes, God works through people and sustains people, but it seems likely a cop-out theologically to say that only God reaches people.

Churches don't reach people because they don't want to.
and
Churches don't reach people because they have puny theology.

but it's not technique.

Technique will come if there is a will and theology to reach people.

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Thursday, July 05, 2007

Anyone in Memphis? Or Lived there Recently?

If there is anyone who reads this blog who lives in Memphis, or has lived there in the last 5 or so years, I'd love to talk to you. I can't tell you why on this blog, but I'd love ask you a few questions. It's church and culture related. Drop me your email in a comment or email me.

mark@theRiddleGroup.com

thanks for reading!

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Friday, June 29, 2007

How Nerdy are You?

Marko scored an 11.


I am nerdier than 9% of all people. Are you a nerd? Click here to find out!

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Thursday, June 28, 2007

Just a thought

The difference between a man's wallet and a boy's wallet is the number of receipts.

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